(If it helps to improve your understanding of nonduality, you can exchange every first person pronoun representing the writer/reader here with “this point-of-view”. All other pronouns can be seen in the light of “that point-of-view”. The aim here is to cognize that human interaction is not between separate entities, but point-of-views which play out different stories. If we’re going to try to write while keeping the nouns correct in the context of nonduality, it’d take rigorous effort so I’ll just say what I think in the simplest manner.)
I’ve recently responded to the comments on post titled “#73 Non-Duality, By Greg Goode”.
After considering it, I thought it would be good to turn the response into a new post.
See many people who read this blog may probably share the commenters’ sentiments.
Some may ask, “I know that what I do comes as a result of my choice, isn’t that free will?”
Others may disagree, and attempt to exert their will over others.
If the above describes you, this post is for you.
But honestly, I’m really writing this to save myself time from responding to similar comments in the future.
May you find it useful.
Kirk Crist: for the life of me i cannot understand why the thought ‘i would like to take a walk’ is not one of free choosing. i look at the woods think about them and then i decide to walk in them. i am sorry but it seems to me that many non-dual teachers [greg goode, rupert spira] really bend the laws of logic to fit their premise and therefore their conclusions for instance i freely chose to write and email this opinion now.
I agree. With the conventional way of thinking, I couldn’t agree more. The reason why I accepted nonduality is because I’ve eventually inquired far enough.
More often than not, people accept what they have been told, without inquiring further into the truth of a situation. For example – we believe in the free will of choosing what to do. The question is: Where is this free will coming from?
If you think it came from the brain, the brain is just matter. In science, it’s just referred to as a machine that interprets/works with electromagnetic waves. By itself, it’s like a chip in a computer – without electricity, it’s a static object that serves no purpose. If you’d research into the source of matter, you’d find out that everything is energy. Even atom – magnified down into its core, is just energy that appears from and disappears into nothingness constantly. In other words, despite seeing your body as a solid object, emptiness is actually its base. You may even have learned that your body when you’re 30 is a completely different body than when you’re 10. So where is this you who created thoughts?
Then, we have people who believe in the existence of the soul as religions refer to the word. However, are you satisfied with the explanation that free will is generated from the soul? Is it a belief, or is it the truth?
Given the choice, which of the previous two options would you prefer to know more about?
Back to your view about free will. I held the same perception, until I realize how many things are not within my control. e.g. You’re rushing for work. Once you’re out of the home, you realize you forgot your keys. Now, did you, as the person with free will, planned to forget about taking your keys beforehand?
If you believe that you came up with your thoughts, then where do your thoughts come from? Did they – appear out of nowhere? If this is the case, can you prove me wrong when I say that they may not come from the character named as [your name], but is served to you from somewhere?
That they have arisen, but not created?
When you try not to fear, but nervousness still arise, did you will the circumstance to happen?
You mentioned that the few authors above have bended logic to their premise.
What if because of classic conditioning, we have accepted a faulty premise and thus bended all logic?
We can hold on tightly onto our age-old beliefs, which could be based nowhere close to truth. Or we can simply be present and observe, with clarity, what is nearer to it. We can believe a movie is real, or we can see it as it is,
and work on what counts.
All I did was ask questions that allow me to do more of that.
Some people may not want to ask these questions.
And even that, by itself, is not wrong after all.
Because at the end of the day, no one is ever wrong.
It is all perfect.
Ted Snyder: Just stopped by, by accident, and could not help but feel sorry for you. Please do not continue this ridiculous line of thought. You are wasting your life away with constant thought about thought. I had no idea that there was a group of people wasting time and energy on such thinking. The politicians must love the idea that people would waste their time away in such a fashion. Please for the sake of your own sanity and your usefulness to others stop wasting time and do something. It is plain that you are well read, but you have read all the wrong books and sought for all the wrong answers.
Read the Bible again and this time look for your self there. Then regardless of what you think do something for someone. Bake some cookies for the widow downstairs or volunteer in your local school or take a child to the park, just stop wasting time. Just food for thought.
I could almost imagine that if you bump into someone who suffers from anorexic disorders, this might be the comment that ensues:
“Why won’t you just eat? Please do not continue this ridiculous line of thought that you’re fat. I can’t believe you’re wasting your life away with constant thought about being fat. Please for the sake of your own sanity and your usefulness to others stop wasting time and eat something. Regardless of what you think put food in your mouth and swallow it, just stop wasting time. Just food for thought.”
If the speech healed the person on the spot just like that, great job.
But chances are, the commenter would be ignored for being deemed shallow.
I’m asking questions about thought because the answers may potentially solve much of the mental distresses that people are suffering from today.
So that we can have greater understanding about life, to have peace, to have fulfillment in our hearts.
That’s why we have doctors/psychologists/therapists who’re willing to investigate into the causes of physical/mental disorders.
Asking questions to solve the problems that we face.
If the logic still doesn’t appear to you, that’s fine.
On the topic of the bible – my father’s a pastor. I’ve lived decades of years as a Christian, in a strict Christian environment. Surely, I have reasons why I eventually steered away from the book. If you’re interested to know why by any reason, check out my blog post titled “#70 Religions and the Theory of Oneness”. It’d explain more.
In the end – I can only wonder whether the book(s) you’ve read are actually beneficial to mankind, since their affect on you makes me feel yucky.
In the course of history, the difference of opinions will always be present.
My intention for these posts are meant to inform, and not to push any opinions onto others.
For people who feel the need to push their opinions onto me, I can only say:
Prove yourself right.
Convince me of your truth.
Because otherwise, you’ll only establish evidence in your ignorance.
Anyways, the way I see it –
All opinions are part of the play.
And it looks like, I’ve been writing to entertain it.
Thanks for reading.